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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: Del Hoeft</title>
		<link>http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/2006/01/23/are-you-derived-from-a-speck/#comment-475</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, I don't know about evolution but I know what I like. If the Evolutionists don't get back to basics and start humping like troglodites they will be an evolutionary dead end. Keeerist, do you have to be religious in this world to have a Darwinistic 'survival advantage'. Is there an 'oberlerher' in the house? Why do paleontologists get good-wood at the slightest evidence of a homonid's reverence for the dead? hence spirituality, which can lead to religion, a sign the monkeyman is becoming a bonafide Homo Sapien who then evolves into a atheist. And if demographic trends prevail  de-evolves into an evolutionary deadend. If I were to take Darwinism at face value I'd say Darwinists are the runts of the Human litter, the 'batchelor herd', latter day Boisii. see ya in the tar pits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know about evolution but I know what I like. If the Evolutionists don&#8217;t get back to basics and start humping like troglodites they will be an evolutionary dead end. Keeerist, do you have to be religious in this world to have a Darwinistic &#8217;survival advantage&#8217;. Is there an &#8216;oberlerher&#8217; in the house? Why do paleontologists get good-wood at the slightest evidence of a homonid&#8217;s reverence for the dead? hence spirituality, which can lead to religion, a sign the monkeyman is becoming a bonafide Homo Sapien who then evolves into a atheist. And if demographic trends prevail  de-evolves into an evolutionary deadend. If I were to take Darwinism at face value I&#8217;d say Darwinists are the runts of the Human litter, the &#8216;batchelor herd&#8217;, latter day Boisii. see ya in the tar pits.
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: Claudia V. Heym</title>
		<link>http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/2006/01/23/are-you-derived-from-a-speck/#comment-472</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lunch on friday would be fine! I know a very good Italian restaurant in a suburb of Munich. You would like it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lunch on friday would be fine! I know a very good Italian restaurant in a suburb of Munich. You would like it!
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: ralphieboy</title>
		<link>http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/2006/01/23/are-you-derived-from-a-speck/#comment-465</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>beaverc,

Scott Adams is the cartoonist who does &quot;Dilbert&quot;, a comic strip dedicated to proving that the Absurd is the dominating force in human society. His statements on Evolution were all terrible tongue-in-cheek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>beaverc,</p>
	<p>Scott Adams is the cartoonist who does &#8220;Dilbert&#8221;, a comic strip dedicated to proving that the Absurd is the dominating force in human society. His statements on Evolution were all terrible tongue-in-cheek.
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: GOD</title>
		<link>http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/2006/01/23/are-you-derived-from-a-speck/#comment-463</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Claudia,

I am responsible for every act of nature, every blade of grass, every thought, everything---

How about lunch on Friday?</description>
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	<p>I am responsible for every act of nature, every blade of grass, every thought, everything&#8212;</p>
	<p>How about lunch on Friday?
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: beavercleaver</title>
		<link>http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/2006/01/23/are-you-derived-from-a-speck/#comment-462</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Regarding Adams via Max:
2. Einstein proved that time does not pass for an observer who is moving at the speed of light.

Einstein never proved that. Relativity remains, just like Evolution, a theory supported by observations, and in the case of Relativity, there is much less supporting evidence than exists for Evolution. So why would this Adams fellow blindly accept Relativity, and purport it as fact, then try to use it to bash Evolution as being something &quot;less-worthy&quot; than other theories?
The other &quot;points&quot; made by Adams are also flawed, but my feeling is that these statements were meant to be a philosophical exercise, and not a real criticism of evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Regarding Adams via Max:<br />
2. Einstein proved that time does not pass for an observer who is moving at the speed of light.</p>
	<p>Einstein never proved that. Relativity remains, just like Evolution, a theory supported by observations, and in the case of Relativity, there is much less supporting evidence than exists for Evolution. So why would this Adams fellow blindly accept Relativity, and purport it as fact, then try to use it to bash Evolution as being something &#8220;less-worthy&#8221; than other theories?<br />
The other &#8220;points&#8221; made by Adams are also flawed, but my feeling is that these statements were meant to be a philosophical exercise, and not a real criticism of evolution.
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: ralphieboy</title>
		<link>http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/2006/01/23/are-you-derived-from-a-speck/#comment-461</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Evolution is a theory, based on observed facts, on how humankind came about.

Intelligent design is a theory based on faith on *why* humankind came about. Comparing it to evolution is comparing apples to oranges. And making it part of the science curriculum is like teaching how to make clay pots in a differential calculus course: useful, but unrelated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Evolution is a theory, based on observed facts, on how humankind came about.</p>
	<p>Intelligent design is a theory based on faith on *why* humankind came about. Comparing it to evolution is comparing apples to oranges. And making it part of the science curriculum is like teaching how to make clay pots in a differential calculus course: useful, but unrelated.
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/2006/01/23/are-you-derived-from-a-speck/#comment-460</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, there is no argument in this piece, but only faith and an opinion, because faith is something that needs no reality check. Even Scott Adams came up with a better idea, why evolution is flawed:

1. Evolution is defined as the change in species over time. (Roughly speaking)

2. Einstein proved that time does not pass for an observer who is moving at the speed of light. It’s not just the observer’s perception; it’s his objective reality.

3. Therefore, evolution does not exist for an observer moving at the speed of light.

4. Although no people move at the speed of light, there is nothing special about our perspective except that it is ours.

5. Evolution is not true for all potential observers and therefore it is not completely true.

6. If something is not true for all observers, it is only a point of view.

I find this hilarious and interesting at the same time, because it shows that some people don't want to see the facts. And Evolution doesn't deny the existence of an intial intelligent creator, just the hypothesis that &quot;Mankind&quot; is just 5000 years old is bulls***.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, there is no argument in this piece, but only faith and an opinion, because faith is something that needs no reality check. Even Scott Adams came up with a better idea, why evolution is flawed:</p>
	<p>1. Evolution is defined as the change in species over time. (Roughly speaking)</p>
	<p>2. Einstein proved that time does not pass for an observer who is moving at the speed of light. It’s not just the observer’s perception; it’s his objective reality.</p>
	<p>3. Therefore, evolution does not exist for an observer moving at the speed of light.</p>
	<p>4. Although no people move at the speed of light, there is nothing special about our perspective except that it is ours.</p>
	<p>5. Evolution is not true for all potential observers and therefore it is not completely true.</p>
	<p>6. If something is not true for all observers, it is only a point of view.</p>
	<p>I find this hilarious and interesting at the same time, because it shows that some people don&#8217;t want to see the facts. And Evolution doesn&#8217;t deny the existence of an intial intelligent creator, just the hypothesis that &#8220;Mankind&#8221; is just 5000 years old is bulls***.
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: James Versluys</title>
		<link>http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/2006/01/23/are-you-derived-from-a-speck/#comment-457</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've had an alternate idea that's been rolling around in my brain for a while. It does seem to me, as a resident philosopher, that if God exists, why would He make the proof or non-proof of His existance possible to determine? I'm not a believer, but it does seem that if God sees fit to remain, as the Catholics have it, as a &quot;necessarily unknowable&quot; source of the Universe. It also seems to me that evolutionary theory is one of those areas of proof that would be pretty much as they are now if God existed- seemingly scientifically explicable, but with constant faint airs of suspicion, doubt, questions. Now, this all assumes a personal Christian God that doesn't want to prove anything one way or the other: hence the entire notion of faith as the divine healing of the merciful Lord. The questions and doubt are what faith would be for overcoming. 

It seems to me that if you are Christian, the entire question is wholly unanswerable from the very beginning by God's very design, if you will forgive the term. 

I also don't understand how evolution itself is much of a going concern: how does this contradict anything except the most literal interpretation of the bible? Pope Benedict, for instance, has a more metaphorical explanation for evolution and the Big Bang as actual doctrine of Holy Mother the Church. And it goes back in time, as well, to the time the Church caved in to scientific exploration. 

As I stated earlier, I'm not a believer, but it appears that Christians have a lot of wiggle room here if they chose to go that route, but that they don't have to be very concerned about the question to begin with. God is not going to put proof of His existance in a tar pit to be discovered by some damned paleontologist, that's for sure. And it sure as hell won't be an astrophysicist. 

So that's the central problem of the question: a universe without a God will look a lot like one that does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve had an alternate idea that&#8217;s been rolling around in my brain for a while. It does seem to me, as a resident philosopher, that if God exists, why would He make the proof or non-proof of His existance possible to determine? I&#8217;m not a believer, but it does seem that if God sees fit to remain, as the Catholics have it, as a &#8220;necessarily unknowable&#8221; source of the Universe. It also seems to me that evolutionary theory is one of those areas of proof that would be pretty much as they are now if God existed- seemingly scientifically explicable, but with constant faint airs of suspicion, doubt, questions. Now, this all assumes a personal Christian God that doesn&#8217;t want to prove anything one way or the other: hence the entire notion of faith as the divine healing of the merciful Lord. The questions and doubt are what faith would be for overcoming. </p>
	<p>It seems to me that if you are Christian, the entire question is wholly unanswerable from the very beginning by God&#8217;s very design, if you will forgive the term. </p>
	<p>I also don&#8217;t understand how evolution itself is much of a going concern: how does this contradict anything except the most literal interpretation of the bible? Pope Benedict, for instance, has a more metaphorical explanation for evolution and the Big Bang as actual doctrine of Holy Mother the Church. And it goes back in time, as well, to the time the Church caved in to scientific exploration. </p>
	<p>As I stated earlier, I&#8217;m not a believer, but it appears that Christians have a lot of wiggle room here if they chose to go that route, but that they don&#8217;t have to be very concerned about the question to begin with. God is not going to put proof of His existance in a tar pit to be discovered by some damned paleontologist, that&#8217;s for sure. And it sure as hell won&#8217;t be an astrophysicist. </p>
	<p>So that&#8217;s the central problem of the question: a universe without a God will look a lot like one that does.
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: Michael Meyn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A few years ago I heard someone say on TV: &quot;I simply don't have enough faith to believe in evolution!&quot; That's a powerful statement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A few years ago I heard someone say on TV: &#8220;I simply don&#8217;t have enough faith to believe in evolution!&#8221; That&#8217;s a powerful statement!
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 		<title>Comment on Are you derived from a speck? by: Juergen Krafzik</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great post, darling :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Great post, darling <img src='http://www.misunderestimatedgermans.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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