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These comments remind me of the defeatists who doubted Germany’s ability to achieve final victory back in the dark days of 1945.
Yet the Führer brought out the Wunderwaffen and Germany was able to contain the red hoardes and bring the Allies to reason and win them over to his side in the struggle against Bolshevism.
Didn’t he?
Comment by ralphieboy - December 7, 2005 @ 10:48 pm
I’m not quite sure what you are trying to say, ralphieboy.
Comment by M. Meyn - December 8, 2005 @ 5:33 am
People were still being shot for “defeatism” in the rubble of Berlin as the Red Army was accupying it. Thier faith in “Final Victory” was unshaken.
Now those Americans who have the strength to admit that we cannot win the war in Iraq are being branded cowards and traitors.
Comment by ralphieboy - December 8, 2005 @ 11:07 pm
There is no strength in admitting that the US cannot win the war, especially if you do it the way Howard Dean does, who is now saying that he was quoted out of context.
Comment by M. Meyn - December 9, 2005 @ 2:32 am
Strength of character is the word, as with Representative Murtha, who is one of the few politicians willing to stand up and admit the extent of the mistake the US made in getting involved in a war it cannot win.
And there is a difference between strength and consistency of character and simple boneheaded denial of the obvious. And I cannot help but be reminded of those fanatical Germans who clung to the notion of final victory right up through April of 1945.
Comment by ralphieboy - December 9, 2005 @ 10:48 am
You might have been asleep when it happened but the US already won the war in Iraq. It happened fairly quick and was therefore easy to miss.
I don’t know why you compare me, J. Krafzik and Abraham Lincoln to the Nazis but I’m sure you have your reasons.
Comment by M. Meyn - December 9, 2005 @ 6:26 pm
If the US won the war in Iraq, why are soldiers still dying there? And even those who support the war in Iraq must be appalled at the inept and almost negligent way that it is being pursued.
Comment by ralphieboy - December 10, 2005 @ 12:11 am
I haven’t heard anybody come up with a better plan other than pulling out the troops. Since last month we have it in writing that Congress doesn’t want to pull out. Must be all Nazis…
Soldiers are still dying in Iraq for the same reason peple died on 9/11: ruthless terrorists. The war on terrorism won’t be over for a very long time, but the war in Iraq ended just weeks after it began. If the US were still at war with Iraq, people wouldn’t be having elections next week.
Comment by M. Meyn - December 10, 2005 @ 6:08 am
US soldiers are dying in Iraq because Bush put them there, insisting there was some kind of connection to 9/11. They continue to die there because there is no practical way of getting them out. Neither is there any way we can win.
After phase one of the war in Iraq ended (the easy part - toppling the tinhorn dictator who had no WMD’s and posed no threat to the USA), Bush appeared in his goombah flight suit with a “mission accomplished banner” displayed in the background. We have since moved on to phase II, dealing with the consequences of opening the can of worms.
The image that came to mind was that of Mexican general Santa Ana touring the shattered ruins of the recently conquered Alamo. I wonder if he hung up a “mission accomplished” banner from the parapets.
Comment by ralphieboy - December 10, 2005 @ 8:19 am
Maybe you need to do something about all those images that keep popping up in your head. Try staying away from the mainstream press for a view days. That might help.
Comment by M. Meyn - December 10, 2005 @ 8:24 am
I only follow the “mainstream” press to find out what the official “party line” is on a particular issue. No issue is simple or straighforward enough to be summarized by the sort of newsbytes that these people turn out.
Most of my info comes from websites, many of them rather liberal & left-wing, but also from conservative sites like yours, which I ran across on the “Faithmouse” site. I figure that the real story is hiding out there in the no-man’s land between the various viewpoints.
Comment by ralphieboy - December 10, 2005 @ 10:17 am
“I figure that the real story is hiding out there in the no-man’s land between the various viewpoints.”
I agree with you on that in some ways. Just because I consider myself a conservative, it doesn’t mean that I swallow everything the Republicans give me to eat. There’s always at least two sides to a story. But the side that is portrayed by the Dummycrats is so far away from reality that it is most embarrassing for America. It does a lot of damage. Nothing good can come out of it.
Comment by M. Meyn - December 10, 2005 @ 10:37 am
The Democrats are certainly their own worst enemies. Even when I agree with their policies and ideas, I am astounded at how poorly they bring them across. The same can be said about the German CDU/CSU and the British Conservatives.
Comment by ralphieboy - December 10, 2005 @ 10:54 am
How can you possibly agree with the Dummycrats? Name one thing they have proposed that makes any sense. All they do is attack the Bush Administration. They haven’t come come up with anything constructive in 5 years. Anything Bush says, they are against it. Anything! Even if Bush changed his mind and did everything the Dummycrats demanded, they still would be against it.
Comment by M. Meyn - December 10, 2005 @ 11:03 am
I tend to support Democrats because they favor alternate energy sources. Republicans seem bent on increasing our dependence on resources from a politically unstable, religiously backward part of the world and/or trashing America’s wilderness & wildlife to provide us with more SUV juice.
I support Democrats who see the “free market” as a mechanism for balancing supply and demand rather than an as an ideology that sacrifices America’s own workforce to maximize corporate profits.
Why do the biggest advocates of laissez-faire economics in America seem to come from the defense and energy sectors - two industries that are almost entirely dependent on government regulation and intervention?
And I believe that teenagers should be given enough information to make their own choices about their own sexuality rather than the “abstinence only” dogma preached by Republicans. I have no use for homosexuals or gay culture, but I do not consider them the moral equivalent of sodomizers, wife-beaters or sheep abusers.
Nonetheless, it is a shame that the Democrats cannot stuff a sock into the mouths of their own left-wing extremists who make them look like idiots.
Comment by ralphieboy - December 10, 2005 @ 12:35 pm